September 04, 1995
- I'm a little late today because real-life got in the way for a second and also because I had to format the Vince AOL chat for Reddit. Holy shit that took a lot of work to clean up and make it look halfway readable. There's probably still some formatting errors, but you'll figure it out. It's worth the read, even though it's long as hell.
- There's no doubt who the best performer in American wrestling is anymore. For the 3rd PPV this year, Shawn Michaels stole the show at Summerslam. Dave says you can call him the Ric Flair of the 90s or the most talented American worker of all-time, but you should be calling him WWF champion and Dave thinks it's ridiculous that WWF isn't building the company around him instead of Diesel. Dave debates who is the best between Shawn or Flair, and goes back and forth, but says that, even on his best day, Ric Flair could not have had a performance better than Shawn did at Summerslam. Dave says the Shawn/Razor ladder match wasn't quite as good as the WM10 one, but was different enough and is still one of the top 5 WWF matches he has ever seen. He gives it 4.75 stars.
- Other Summerslam notes: the commentary was bad and Vince McMahon apparently doesn't know the name of any wrestling move invented after 1975, which led to half of Hakushi's offense just being called "a great move." Skip vs. Barry Horowitz was very entertaining and the crowd was super into the story. The Alundra Blayze/Bertha Faye match was awful. Isaac Yankem (Glenn Jacobs) wasn't very good and isn't ready for the big stage yet, probably needs another year or two on the indies. And the Diesel/Mabel main event was just as bad as you'd expect.
- ECW had one of their hottest shows ever and it included Paul Heyman openly declaring war on WCW. Heyman gave a long speech to the crowd, talking about WCW, Eric Bischoff, and even Ted Turner and inciting the crowd to chant lots of horrible things about them. It was acknowledged that several guys were leaving for WCW, but Heyman made it sound like NJPW had coerced them in order to help the guys save face with the fans. Heyman and everyone else was respectful to the wrestlers leaving, with Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Dean Malenko all getting standing ovations and giving speeches about how much they loved being in ECW and hoped to return one day. After the Guerrero/Malenko match, both men were carried back to the locker room on the shoulders of the other wrestlers. Heyman announced that they had reached a deal with AAA and that Rey Misterio Jr. will face Psicosis at the next ECW show, as well as Konnan appearing.
- Lots of mainstream media stories about WCW Monday Nitro, which is scheduled to premiere this week. At a press conference, Eric Bischoff said, "Why did I want to go up against the competition? Because I like kicking butt...At the end of three years, I'll be standing alone. The first month, I realize I'm going against a product that has been well-branded, and I don't expect to take over immediately. No great war has ever been won without a long battle."
- WCW has reached a deal with All Japan Women for 4 of their stars to appear on an upcoming WCW PPV and the following Nitro. Dave doesn't know who it will be, but he's heard Manami Toyota and Bull Nakano will likely be 2 of them.
- Konnan was arrested last week after getting involved in a brawl with some fans at a show. Konnan is known to have a temper and this isn't the first time he's fought with fans in the stands, which has led to him being banned from wrestling in certain cities. This happened in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico and now Konnan is suspended from wrestling there for 4 months.
- New Japan paid for the entire promotion (wrestlers, crew, etc.) to go on vacation in the Saipan Islands last week.
- The Roadie (Brian Armstrong) returned to SMW this week, after walking out on WWF last month. He's going by the name Brian Jesse James.
- ECW introduced a guy dressed as one of the Dudley brothers doing a sign gimmick, where he holds up signs at ringside for all the heels. That would be the debut of Sign Guy Dudley.
- At an NWC indie show in Las Vegas, they've been running an angle where a guy named The Thug, wearing a KKK outfit, has been feuding with Virgil. At the latest show, a second KKK guy came out and attacked Virgil, and then unmasked to reveal that it was Jim Neidhart. Then they hung Virgil with the sheet.
- Sabu debuted for WCW in dark matches, working against Chris Kanyon. The matches won't air, but footage of them will be used in a montage for his debut on the 2nd Nitro episode. Sabu tried to break a table but it was one of the well-built ones and wouldn't break, and something happened at ringside that resulted in him taking a swing at a fan. But overall, he was said to be impressive.
- Ron Simmons reportedly gave notice to ECW that he's leaving (they haven't used him in months anyway) and said he and Butch Reed are returning to WCW to reform Doom.
- Latest on The Eliminators tryout at the WWF tapings: When they arrived, none of the WWF wrestlers would let them in the dressing room and they had to dress in the boiler room area. All the wrestlers also told them not to do any high spots. The only wrestler who gave them the time of day was Owen Hart, who told them not to listen to everyone else and just do their best. Good guy Owen. Anyway, during the match, all the guys were watching from the back and yelling at them from the curtain, harassing them. At one point, one of them did a superkick and Shawn Michaels "joked" that they should fire them immediately. After the match, Rene Goulet told them that they did pretty good for a couple of "nobodies" which upset them since they've been working indies and Japan for a couple of years now and have made a decent name for themselves.
- Vince McMahon took part in a Q&A on "America On Line" after the latest Raw show. He tried to be funny and was mostly dishonest in answering questions and talked down to people. He also knocked ECW as being too violent and said that WWF would be inducting Bruno Sammartino into the Hall of Fame. BEHOLD!
- AOLSports7: Welcome to the premiere of the World Wrestling Federation live online.
- AOLSports7: For the first time ever, Vince McMahon is affording fans the opportunity to ask him questions directly.
- AOLSports7: And now, ladies and gentlemen ... Vince McMahon!
- VinceMcM: Hello, World Wrestling Federation fans, and welcome to the World Wrestling Federation Online. It is with great honor and privilege that I take this opportunity to answer your questions here tonight. As I have stated many times before, the fans of the World Wrestling Federation are the MOST loyal fans in the world. Without you, there would be no "us." So without further ado, let the Cyberspace Chat begin!
- Question: What happened to Double J and The Roadie?
- VinceMcM: They breached their contract.
- VinceMcM: We still may be able to resolve the issues, however.
- Question: why did you ban WCW from running a house show at MSG earlier on.
- VinceMcM: It's not within my power to ban WCW from playing Madison Square Garden.
- Question: vince what were you thinking of when you created the golddust character
- VinceMcM: I hadn't had any sleep for 48 hours...
- VinceMcM: and had extra doses of caffeine, and it came to me in a vision.
- VinceMcM: Gold is also one of my favorite colors.
- Question: Will there be any new wrestlers, besides Gold Dust, cpoming to the WWF within the coming months.
- VinceMcM: There are always new superstars coming in and out of the WWF at all times.
- VinceMcM: It's important that our fans receive a constant flow of new performers at all times.
- Question: Mr. McMahon: Have you ever talked to Ted Turner about a supercard with WWF and WCW wrestlers, wrestling each other? You could call it WrestleFest
- VinceMcM: No, I've never talked to Ted Turner about a super card, but Bill Shaw has talked about it with me.
- VinceMcM: In addition, Mr. Shaw saidwould be a moron if I did not accept his invitation.
- VinceMcM: Since that time, I often sit in the corner with a dunce hat on babbling to myself.
- Question: Vince, have you thought of going "international" with the WWF?
- VinceMcM: Where do you live?
- VinceMcM: We often mention of WWF live events all over the world. We are truly global in nature.
- VinceMcM: However, we also play local neighborhood clubs.
- VinceMcM: We're in over 85 countries, in eight different languages.
- VinceMcM: Check in our online area for more information.
- VinceMcM: Even fans in Hoboken understand what the World Wrestling Federation is all about.
- VinceMcM: For those of you who don't know, Hoboken is in Lithuania.
- Question: Vince,first I have to say GREAT job! WWF is the BEST! now my question, how do you feel about Ted turner and the WCW... do you think Monday Night Nitro will hurt ot help the WWF?
- VinceMcM: That's a good question.
- VinceMcM: I really don't have an answer.
- VinceMcM: I question the motives of those at WCW who made this decision.
- VinceMcM: It's obvious that those at WCW are attempting to hurt the WWF and its fans.
- VinceMcM: They are not content on attempting to help themselves but rather hurt a competitor.
- VinceMcM: A very poor marketing philosophy, in my view.
- VinceMcM: However, we always welcome comparisons.
- VinceMcM: We don't wish to be considered in the same category as the WCW in many respects.
- Question: What role does Bill Watts play in the WWF now stinks now in the wwf?
- VinceMcM: Bill Watts has just joined our creative staff and his first task is to set up the wrestling ring
- VinceMcM: in Madison Square Garden and to make sure the ring ropes are tight at all times.
- VinceMcM: Wow.
- AOLSports7: >Question: Why don't we have a deal with the Japanese Federation?
- VinceMcM: We have an unofficial working agreement with Mr. Tenryu.
- VinceMcM: However, since our marketing philosophy would include performing live events in all countries,
- VinceMcM: including Japan, I would suggest that the Japanese promotions would not look forward to a working
- VinceMcM: agreement for that reason.
- VinceMcM: Nonetheless, I'm open for discussion.
- Question: How come Monday Night Raw isn't in the Manhattan Center anymore?
- VinceMcM: Geographic proximity is extremely important for all of our remote television venues.
- Question: How do you intend to get the popularity of wrestling to the level it was in the early and mid 80's?
- VinceMcM: I'm not concerned with the popularity of wrestling, I'm only concerned with the popularity of the WWF. THere is a huge philosophical difference in the standard of ethics and non-violent action on
- VinceMcM: television as well as marketing philosphy between anything we do in the WWF and anything we do in
- VinceMcM: the broad stroke category of what pro wrestling is.
- Question: VINCE, WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR
- VinceMcM: The Ultimate Warrior was left heard of baying at the moon, at the desert at approximately 3:30am
- VinceMcM: Rumor has it that he subsequently grew hair all over his face and became the Wolfman.
- VinceMcM: As far as I know, the Warrior is still pumping iron in Arizona.
- Question: Vince: when are we going to see Dustin, Al Snow and Douglas actually WRESTLING!
- VinceMcM: These are three stellar new WWF superstars that can't get to the ring fast enough, as far as I am
- VinceMcM: concerned. The answer is as quickly as possible.
- Question: VINCE, DID YOU ENJOY THE CROWD AT WORCESTER FOR RAW LAST WEEK?
- VinceMcM: I enjoyed the crowd at Worcester immensely. I especially enjoyed the chants, that I heard,
- VinceMcM: loud and clear. Especially, "Kill the clown."
- VinceMcM: I always enjoy fan interaction at any level, but especially at a LIVE WWF event.
- AOLSports7: >Question: What is the Raw Main Event against Nitro on Sept. 11
- VinceMcM: Psycho Sid will meet the winner of the latter match.
- VinceMcM: At Summerslam. Ladder match - sorry.
- VinceMcM: Between Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon.
- VinceMcM: Plus other superstars to be announced.
- Question: WHY ISN'T THERE A TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH AT SUMMER SLAM
- VinceMcM: This is the rice-eating season for Yoko Zuna.
- VinceMcM: However, Owen Hart is ready willing, and able to perform at Summerslam and will actually be online
- VinceMcM: with AOL as well as many other superstars during and after the Summerslam event.
- AOLSports7: >Question:Personally, which do you think was the most memorable PPV event in WWF history?
- VinceMcM: I don't have any one most memorable PPV event. Clearly the match in London at Wembley Stadium
- VinceMcM: with Bret Hart and the British Bulldog stands out as one of the greatest. I would like to think,
- VinceMcM: however, that my most memorable, more importantly, the fans' most memorable, PPV event is yet to come.
- AOLSports7: >Question: Do you feel a big loss, losing Hulk Hogan to WCW?
- VinceMcM: As far as Hulk Hogan is concerned, as a youngster, my mother told me
- VinceMcM: that if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.
- VinceMcM: In this case, silence is golden.
- Question: Where do you recruit most of your new talent from?
- VinceMcM: Generally speaking, new WWF superstars come from all areas.
- VinceMcM: Such as Mars, Pluto, and on occasion, Uranus.
- Question: What wrestlers will be online in the future
- VinceMcM: We'll put on whomever you'd like to see. Any suggestions are appreciated.
- VinceMcM: At some point, all WWF superstars will be online with AOL.
- VinceMcM: Including Barry Didinsky.
- Question: How come there are never any matches that are 'good guy' vs. 'good guy' and visa-versa?
- VinceMcM: Razor vs Shawn are two notable stellar performers who would qualify for that.
- VinceMcM: I would suggest that with the interim presidency of Gorilla Monsoon,
- VinceMcM: and a fired-up creative staff, that you're likely to see and hear about matches that you thought
- VinceMcM: would never take place.
- Question: The WWF desperately needs more tag team talent-what can we expect in the near future?
- VinceMcM: Who knows who is going to team up in the future here in the WWF?
- VinceMcM: Howard Finkel is looking for a new tag-team partner.
- VinceMcM: Anyone out there who would like to team up with Howard, please let us know.
- VinceMcM: This excludes you, Harvey Whippleman, 'cause I know you're online.
- Question: Hi Vince, I think you put out a quality product. I've been following wrestling for 30
- Question: years. What has been the biggest change you have seen as CEO of Titan?
- VinceMcM: I think the biggest changes are yet to come in the WWF.
- VinceMcM: New marketing techniques, new vistas, new talent, new attitude, new generation
- VinceMcM: etc.
- Question: Vince, what do you think about Andre the Giant's "son"??
- VinceMcM: Andre the Giant never had a son.
- VinceMcM: This just seems to be one more fraud perpetuated by the WCW.
- VinceMcM: Shamelessly.
- Question: Waylon Mercy(Danny Spivey) is one of the most popular wrestlers discussed on the Net. What
- Question: are your plans for him?
- VinceMcM: Big plans, if you know what I mean. ; )
- Question: Hi Vince ! What do u think about The British Bulldog doing that to Diesel ?
- VinceMcM: I would suggest that the British Bulldog must be terribly frustrated over the fact that he
- VinceMcM: never, ever received an opportunity to become World Wrestling Federation champion.
- VinceMcM: However, we all will find out hopefully soon, from the British Bulldog or from Jim Cornett,
- VinceMcM: as far as their explanation is concerned. Stay tuned.
- VinceMcM: and stay logged online.
- Question: Do you feel that elements that make ECW a succesful TV program and live event to attend
- Question: could be incorparated into WWF's style? What do you think of ECW's style in general?
- VinceMcM: I believe the ECW style in general is deplorable, where their use of violence is concerned.
- VinceMcM: That's not to say that some things aren't done well at ECW, and not that the WWF could learn from
- VinceMcM: everyone, but the WWF deplores violence that is typical of ECW.
- Question: can a wrestler hold two titles at once?
- VinceMcM: Yes. That has happened on several occasions.
- VinceMcM: The last of which I believe was Diesel, who was Intecontinental and Tag Team Champion.
- VinceMcM: This, however, has occurred on numerous occasions at the WWF.
- AOLSports7: >Question: Is Shawn a better athlete than Hitman Hart?
- VinceMcM: It would all depend on how you would classify someone as an athlete.
- VinceMcM: They are both extraordinary in every respect and both individuals typify the direction in which
- VinceMcM: the WWF is moving.
- Question: Vince, during your career, who have been the wrestlers that you have enjoyed solid working
- Question: relationships with, and why?
- VinceMcM: Andre the Giant, because he always did what he wanted.
- VinceMcM: Big Daddy Cool Diesel - because he's so eager to learn and to please.
- VinceMcM: and to interact with you WWF fans.
- VinceMcM: Bret Hart because he's Bret Hart - and there have been many others.
- Question: Vince, the greatest promoter of ALL time....I ordered the SummerSlam Package from Travel
- Question: Strategies & I would like to know if you will be on the Boat Cruise or at the Hyaat Regency
- Question: because I really would like to meet you!!!
- VinceMcM: I am scheduled to be at the tug of war
- VinceMcM: which means that I'm likely to be in the water in Pittsburgh.
- VinceMcM: I'm not sure if it's the Allegheny, the Monangahela, and the Ohio
- VinceMcM: It doesn't matter, I can swim.
- VinceMcM: I'm looking forward to seeing and interacting with as many WWF fans as possible.
- Question: one straight out question Is Wrestling real or fake?
- VinceMcM: Where have you been?
- VinceMcM: Titan Sports was the first promotional organization that stated that we were not a traditional sport,
- VinceMcM: in the sense of baseball, football, etc. but that our athletes are the most extraordinarily talented
- VinceMcM: in the world today.
- VinceMcM: We in the WWF coined the phrase "Sports entertainment"
- VinceMcM: We are a hybrid of Hollywood, sports, Broadway, and Mickey Mouse.
- VinceMcM: Some combination, huh?
- AOLSports7: >Question: Do you laugh when WCW copies the WWF of the 80's?
- VinceMcM: I don't often have an opportunity to watch much of the WCW product.
- VinceMcM: When I do, it does seem as though they are attempting to reinvent the wheel.
- VinceMcM: The reason for the pause at this moment, is that I have just nodded off.
- VinceMcM: I turn, 50 years old on Thursday.
- VinceMcM: Senility is setting in.
- VinceMcM: : )
- Question: On what terms did you and Savage leave on
- VinceMcM: I've had no communication whatsoever with Randy Savage since he elected to leave the WWF.
- VinceMcM: I do, however, believe that it was a very poor business decision on Mr. Savage's part.
- Question: Mr. McMahon- What is the status of Lex Luger in the WWF? We have heard many reports that
- Question: he has left, and then some conflicting reports to that.
- VinceMcM: Lex Luger is currently negotiating a new contract with the WWF.
- AOLSports7: >Question: Is it true that Luger, Atom Bomb and Owen Hart quit recently??
- VinceMcM: Of the three individuals mentioned, Adam Bomb apparently has elected to stay at home
- VinceMcM: and support his fiance.
- VinceMcM: in opening a chiropractic business.
- VinceMcM: The other two remain in good standing in the WWF.
- VinceMcM: Nr. Bomb's desire apparently has fizzled.
- Question: Will you ever induct any past champions into the Hall Of Fame?
- VinceMcM: Yes. Regardless of a political non-affiliation with the WWf, we intend to honor all those individuals
- VinceMcM: who have made stellar contributions to the WWF.
- VinceMcM: We just honored Pedro Morales, even though he is affiliated with WCW.
- VinceMcM: And we intend to honor in the future Bruno Samartino and other former champions who
- VinceMcM: contributed greatly to the success of the WWF in the past.
- AOLSports7: >Question: Do any of the wrestlers have an online account so we could send them questions?
- VinceMcM: They don't yet.
- VinceMcM: But they certainly will in the future. Keep checking Keyword WWF for the best in wrestling
- VinceMcM: online.
- Question: Vince, I am a long time fan of Classy Freddie Blassie. I heard that he had some health
- Question: problems. How is he doing?
- VinceMcM: Freddy is doing great. Thanks for asking. He's one of my all-time favorites as well.
- VinceMcM: He recently underwent triple bypass surgery and was driving the doctors and nurses up the wall by the
- VinceMcM: time he left the hospital. Same old Freddy.
- Question: What are the details of the new Fall season. Aree you going to be on Fox every sunday
- Question: after football? Or just specials every so often?
- VinceMcM: More information will be forthcoming about the new fall season, including when Wrestlemania the
- VinceMcM: special will air on the Fox network.
- VinceMcM: More information will be forthcoming on the new formats for current WWF titles, such as Action
- VinceMcM: Zone, Raw, and Superstars.
- VinceMcM: Also check the WWF Events Calendar online.
- Question: Will we see a regular WWF area on AOL soon?
- VinceMcM: Yes, you will see much more detailed information on WWF in the middle of September.
- VinceMcM: We've already seen a lot of action in our message boards today - thank you for your participation.
- VinceMcM: We are looking forward to hearing from you about what you would like to see in this area.
- Question: Vince, when will Shawn Michaels get a World Title shot?
- VinceMcM: Shawn Michaels faced the then WWF champion at Wrestlemania XI in Hartford last April the 2nd
- VinceMcM: this match will be seen again, which was mentioned before, during Wrestlemania the Special on the
- VinceMcM: Fox network.
- Question: Vince, any plans to hold more "Fanfests" at other events besides WM?...It was Superb!!!
- VinceMcM: Not at this juncture. However, we're always looking for new ways to please our fans.
- VinceMcM: I have time for one more question...
- Question: You seem to be in pretty good shape; have you tried wrestling yourself?
- VinceMcM: Since I turn 50 on Thursday, perhaps my age would be more suitable for wrestling in WCW
- VinceMcM: as opposed to the WWF.
- VinceMcM: However, seriously, I have an amateur background
- VinceMcM: not a professional one. I've never been big enough or bad enough to be a WWF superstar.
- VinceMcM: Thank you, everyone, for coming. This was great - I really enjoyed it and I will be back.
- VinceMcM: Check the WWF area to see our coverage of SummerSlam - we'll be live from Pittsburgh
- VinceMcM: with all your favorites.
- Question: Vince, do you get any time to yourself?
- VinceMcM: I spend most of my time doing what I enjoy most, which is participating in WWF activities.
- VinceMcM: One way or another.
- AOLSports7: We'd like to thank you very much for checking into
- AOLSports7: Vince McMahon live on America Online.
- VinceMcM: Who is Beth and why does she want me to stop talking? Let's do this again. I've enjoyed it
- VinceMcM: immensely.
- Despite reports that Bill Watts was only hired as a scriptwriter and wouldn't be associating with talent, Watts was backstage at the latest TV tapings, working with the wrestlers.
- Mr. Fuji, Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Undertaker, Paul Bearer, Yokozuna and King Kong Bundy did some promos for ESPN SportsCenter. The idea is they're all trying to bribe ESPN for more wrestling coverage. They also had Diesel and Shawn Michaels co-host an episode of Baseball Tonight.
- WWF has moved some announcer jobs around. Dox Hendrix is replacing Jerry Lawler on Raw so Lawler can work more often for USWA in Memphis. Jim Ross is out completely and was joking backstage about Vince saying he was too regional. Yeah. "Joking."
- More ECW drama in the letters section. Some other guy writes in to talk about how ECW owes him money and tells his story. Once again, why not, let's reprint it. And tomorrow, Heyman will respond:
- After seeing how Paul Heyman made Rob Feinstein out to be the heel in the mess amazes me. I knew Feinstein's story was true because I was once in the same predicament with ECW. After Feinstein informed me he was writing a letter in response to Heyman's accusations in the Observer, I too decided to write a letter exposing ECW for what it truly is--an "extremely" unprofessional organization that doesn't believe in paying bills. Let me tell my story on how ECW screwed me.
- In May 1994, I wroe a shirt that I designed to an ECW show, which caught the attention of both Paul Heyman and Tod Gordon, along with many of the fans. We quickly came up with an arrangement that I would become the official t-shirt printer and designer of all merchandise that used the ECW logo. I came up with each and every shirt that ECW has sold since that time. The arrangement was very profitable for myself and ECW, not to mention that since I had been a wrestling fan for as long as I can remember, it was a great opportunity. The deal ran smoothly through such changes including the infamous change to Extreme Championship Wrestling and steadily increasing crowds. In December, Gordon introduced me to Richard Freedberg, who had just joined the company as marketing specialist. At this point, everything started to change. I no longer received the same percentage on my sales. ECW now purchased the shirts from me just as any other customer would do in my business. They no longer needed me to physically sell the shirts at the shows. My company, J.P. Tee's, gave ECW 30 days to pay on invoice. The first order they purchased from me took more than 45 days to collect. On March 17, ECW placed an order totalling $2,543.70, which is still outstanding. On March 31, I got a call from Gordon informing me that he had just struck up a deal with Victor Quinones of IWA in Japan. We sent him an order totalling $3,196.80, plus shipping to Japan which cost $467.76. This total invoice came to $3,664.56 which is also still outstanding. Gordon told me this would be paid as soon as he received the check from Quinones. I believe Gordon received the check but never came through. On April 13, I received another order of $584.00 in hats, which is yet another outstanding invoice. In total, ECW owes my business $6,792.26. The only reason I let them get this far ahead of me was because I trusted Gordon and Heyman, not to mention that at heart I guess I'm stick a mark for being involved in the wrestling business.
- After calling Richard Freedberg about my payment, he insulted me and told me a bullshit story of how ECW was bankrupt. In his words he told that that I wasn't getting my money. After this story reached Heyman, he called and told me he would straighten this out and told me that nobody would get f***ed in a company he was involved in. Well, Paul fucked me, Rob Feinstein and I'm sure many others. To all you fans who buy tapes and merchandise, attend the shows and rave about how great ECW is, I hope you also get an opportunity to do business with Heyman, Gordon and Freedburg so you too can join the list of those who have gotten fucked. As this is being written, papers have been filed against ECW, so hopefully I and everyone else will get paid the money we are owed. In closing, please stop funding this low life promotion just because of some chair shots and blood in almost every match.
- Jason Petaccio
- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania